good morning. it is wednesday, october 10, 2012. welcome to cbs "this morning." the state department is under pressure today as congress focuses on security in libya. we have new details on the attacks that killed the u.s. ambassador. >> new polls shows mitt romney gaining ground in ohio while the obama campaign continues to battle over big bird. a teenage girl in pakistan is shot for take on the taliban and okay simple breath test reveal whether you have a deadly disease. we begin this morning with today's "eye opener," your world in 90 seconds. . this deserves a thorough investigation. we need to get to the bottom of

every single allegation. >> we're learning dramatic new details about the september 11th assault that took the lives of ambassador chris stevens and the others. >> officials say there was no unrest outside of the compound prior to the attack. >> a state department official is expected to testify that his request for more troops and officers was turned down. >> governor romney wants to let wall street run wild but he wants to bring the hammer down on "sesame street." >> the producers of "sesame street" wants the obama campaign to stop using big bird in his campaigns. >> and a test in front of the supreme court, whether race should be considered in college admissions. >> investigators want to find out how a passenger got from china to the u.s. with checked weapons. >> incredibly scary attack in a pittsburgh alley.

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welcome to cbs "this morning." i'm norah o'donnell with anthony mason. charlie rose is on assignment. we expect to hear serious charges as congress looks at the security situation in libya. today's hearings come in the wake of last month's attack that killed u.s. ambassador chris stevens and three other americans. >> witnesses say they will tell a house committee that more months the state department rejected their pleas to maintain high-security at the consulate in benghazi. elizabeth palmer is there and she s new information about that deadly attack. >> reporter: the u.s. compound in benghazi now sits empty and abandoned. if the men who attacked these buildings on september 11th used heavy weapons there's few signs of it. over every window there's evidence of the billowing smoke that killed two of the four americans who died that night including ambassador chris stevens. state department sources say the attackers arrived at the gates

around 9:40 in the evening. as they swarmed into the compound a security agent, the ambassador and another american took refuge in the sleeping quarters of the main building which lay behind a heavy steel door that was double locked with barred windows all around. while other security agents went to get more weapons the attackers entered the building and unable to get past the gate sprayed diesel fuel all around and lit a fire. cell phone video from that night shows just how fierce the blaze of. as it took hold smoke seeped inside the building forcing the americans to try to leave. first the security agent probably through this window with the bars by then removed. the other two including the ambassador didn't follow. but at that stage the smoke was so dense the agent couldn't return. later other security personnel did tribute failed to find chris

stevens and it was only hours later that his body was pulled out of that same window by a crowd. now a month later post-it notes cling to the blackened walls left behind by fbi investigators who finally made it to the crime scene for a single day last week. for cbs "this morning," i'm elizabeth palmer in benghazi. >> senior correspondent john miller is a former fbi deputy director and is with us this morning. big hearings on capitol hill this morning. new information leased late last night. first we learned 230 specifically incidents in libya. was there enough security? >> and that is going to be the burning question at the hearing today. i think when you look at -- you know, i was going through all these reports tonight, this is 230 incidents. when you get to page 50 of that there's an interesting quote. it says the risk of u.s. mission personnel, private u.s. citizens

and business persons encountering an isolating event as a result of militia and political violence is high in capital letters. the government libya does not have the ability to effectively respond and manage the rising criminal militia related violence which can result in an isolated event. when you look at this in the context of 20-20 hindsight the state department was being told there was a problem. >> what do you expect the state department to say in response to this >> the state department will do two things. one, they are going to give the first detailed account of what happened on the ground. i believe their main point is going to be security can go up or down based on a threat situation, but we've never seen an event like this. since the storming of the u.s. embassy in iran in 1979 -- >> wouldn't that make you more protective -- given the circumstances in libya which were so wide-open, wouldn't you be more protective? >> i think you would be.

this is the recurring problem for the state department and i don't know how they will articulate this today. we have 280 u.s. embassies and missions around the world. they have 2,000 security agents. you do the math. every day one of them is on the phone saying our security situation just went up. the person who will be testifying for the state department is charlene lamb. this is not your average washington paper pushing bureaucrat. she's been in the most dangerous posts in the world at the most dangerous times. >> we're in the midst of a presidential campaign right now and this administration told the american people that this was a protest that went bad and that it was opportunistic and that these militia men came in and took advantage. we learned last night there was no protest beforehand, this was a planned attack. >> there's a timeline of administration statements and i think what you see there is the fog of war. it was us. the immediate where a who was reporting a lot of that based on the association with what was going on in egypt which was a

protest. so that information took a couple of days to clear up. >> the u.n. secretary, ambassador rice talked about -- >> susan rice has vulnerability because she was doing that a couple of days into this and they've cited a cia analysis report which, you know, actually said there was a protest. so a lot of people got the information wrong. part of the problem is that the root of your question which is this needs be an investigation into the facts and what it's come to is a debate on politics. >> john miller, thanks. new poll numbers shows how much the presidential race has turned around. latest gallup tracking poll shows 49% of likely voters favor governor mitt romney and 47% support president obama. and two other polls from the key state of ohio show the candidates are effectively tied. one of them shows romney ahead by one-point and the president leads by four. both men campaigned in ohio tuesday. jan crawford is covering the romney campaign in akron.

good morning, jan. >> reporter: good morning, anthony, norah. this is a state that romney really needs to win. he's spending four days here this week. we were at a rally here in northeast ohio last night. there were about 10,000 people there and they took the president's re-election chance and turned it on him. >> i've been watching some of president obama's rallies and they chant four more years, four more years and today there are 28 days before the election. i think the right chant ought to be for them is four more weeks. four more weeks. >> reporter: romney argued the president to detract from his failed record is focusing on the small things and instead of focusing on jobs and the economy an example of a small thing a big bird. >> he's focused on saving big bird is kind of a strange thing in my view because you see i'm focused on helping the american people get good jobs and brighter prospects. >> reporter: across the state in

columbus, president obama was talking about big bird, highlighting an issue in last week's debate when romney said one cut he would make to balance the budget was funding for public television. >> he said we're going after big bird, elmo is making a run for the border, oscar is hiding out in a trash can and governor romney wants to let wall street run wild but bring down the hammer on "sesame street." >> reporter: first lady michelle >> we believe in keeping our priorities straight. that we all know good and well cutting "sesame street" is no way to balance the budget. >> big bird -- >> reporter: the ad drew criticism asking the obama campaign to pull it from the air waves and take big bird off campaign materials. the two candidates who are not on trail, vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan are holed up getting ready for tomorrow night's showdown in

kentucky. a cnn romney tried to lower expectations for his running mate. >> this is paul's first debate. i may be wrong. it will be a new experience for paul. but i'm sure he'll do fine. >> reporter: now they may be trying to lower expectations there because a poll taken before last week's debate showed people think ryan will win this one, 55% say they think he'll win versus 39% the vice president. ryan has this real numbers guy. this one who knows how this one will go. >> jan crawford, good to see you. republican strategist mike murphy is with us. he helped run mitt romney's successful campaign for governor of massachusetts. you saw jan lay out a number of those poll numbers. what's happening out there especially in the state of ohio where obama had opened up a double digit lead and now it's quite tight. >> after the debate, which was a great opportunity for romney to have an unfiltered

communication people are taking a second look at him. all across the country you can debate how much and where. the numbers have lunched in romney's direction. romney has the momentum and i'm not sure big bird will stop him. >> at this point how critical is ohio given the republicans have to win ohio. >> if you can't win ohio, he can. he has to win a couple of states that are harder than ohio, maybe colorado but nevada, iowa and of course wisconsin. >> you got an unemployment rate in ohio well below average. >> he can't run the simple bad economy message. it has to be a bit more. he has a path forward. he has enthusiasm. if you're four points behind in a state you only have to get 2%

of people's point of view to be tied. >> let's talk the big bird effect. that shiny object. it's a detraction from obama's message which was mitt romney was dishonest in the debate he didn't tell the truth about his tax plan he tried to get away from some of the positions he took in the past. >> i expect kermit to come out and attack obama. the obama team has run a competent technical campaign got rattled. they are trying to find their groove. on one hand they want to talk flipflops. then extremism. they have to come out with one theme. >> let me ask you about something mitt romney said yesterday. he was with "the des moines register" in iowa and talking about abortion rights. he said quote there's no legislation with regards to abortion that i'm familiar with that would be part of my agenda. then several hours later his spokesperson said governor romney would of course support

legislation aimed at providing greater protections tore life. what is the mitt romney position going back and forth. he's not on the same page. >> hopefully the campaign will get on page with him. he's doing great. >> he said during the republican primary debate he would work to overturn roe v. wade and defund planned parenthood. now he said there's no legislation on abortion rights. which is it. >> he's pro life. he would support pro life legislation. when he was governor and ran for pro life. we did a poll. people knew he was pro life. but what he said in massachusetts my focus is the economy. >> it's another one of those issues where mitt romney says something and then says something different. what does he believe? is he going to be someone who gets into office and supports anti-abortion legislation, yes or no? >> you can ask mitt romney. >> i asked him and he said no. i think it's one of these

examples where it's not clear what his position is. >> the president changes his position on guantanamo bay. politicians changes their position. mitt romney is pro life. is it number one priority of his administration during a cal crisis inprobably not. you have to ask him. congressional committees are asking health officials for briefings on the deadly outbreak of fungal meningitis. this morning the disease has killed 12 people and spread to ten states. 121 cases have been reported. they are blamed on contaminated steroids taken for joint and back pain and as many as 13,000 people may have gotten the tainted injections. experts say symptoms can develop as late as three months after an injection. in pakistan doctors worked through the night to save the life of a teenage girl after the taliban tried to kill her. the 14-year-old has been speaking out against the militants for the past three years. the attempted murder sparked

worldwide outreach. we go to london for more. >> reporter: headlines across pakistan denounced the shootings and pakistan jumped on the shooting. the taliban came after her as she board a bus to go home from school. the gunmen sought her out and shot her in the head and neck. no doubt she was the target. the gunmen asked her by name when he boarded the school bus. she lived with the fear of being a taliban target. on january 3rd, 2009 she wrote in her diary on my way home there school i heard a man say i'll kill you. i hastened my pace and after a while i looked back to see if the man was still come beg hind me but to my utter relief he was talking on his mobile and must have been threatening someone else. she was wrong. the talibaner proud targeting a teenage girl who wants an education. the taliban spokesman called her

the symbol of infidels and obscenity. in fact she's a devout muslim. she promised a resistance curtail education for girls. at age 11 she was writing an anonymous blog about life under the taliban. in one entry entitled i'm afraid she wrote about a terrible dream of helicopters and the taliban. fear is the taliban's primary weapon reinforced with the willingness to use extreme violence against anyone who contradicts their medieval rules. her willingness to speak out earned her a nomination for the international children's peace prize. the taliban's efforts to suppress and punish her may backfire. >> there's people's voice whose have been oppressed and people are living in fear. but i feel there will be many more in this country. >> reporter: today school

children remember her and made a point to pray for her. medical officials say that she will be kept in the hospital for a few more days and then if necessary moved on to the united arab emrates. >> this is an important story because seven out of ten girls in pakistan is illiterate. >> huge problem. time to show you some of this morning's headlines. the "los angeles times" says a man arrived at the airport wearing a bullet proof vest and carrying weapons. he was flying from japan to boston when he was arrested at lax on friday. police say he was wearing flame retardant pants and had a smoke grenade, billy clubs, hatchet and body bags in his carry on luggage. >> in the "wall street journal,"

jar welch insists the september jobs report doesn't make sense opinion he has taken some heat from the obama administration for tweeting on friday that the unemployment numbers wering changed. this morning he says the economy isn't growing fast enough for the jobless rate to drop half of a percent in two months. >> the detroit news has a warning about counterfeit airbags that may not inflate properly after an accident. there could be tens of thousands of them on the road. nearly hundreds of models could have the counterfeit bags. >> "financial times" says toyota is recalling more than 7 million vehicles because power window switches may get stuck. the recall affects 2 1/2 vehicles in the united states. no accidents are connected to the problems. >> "new york times" looks at a plan to import 18 beluga whales for aquariums. animal activists say they should not be remov

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mission due to the weather. >> reporter: the mission looked like a go. winds called after a five hour delay and crews pumped helium into the massive balloon hoping to send felix baumgartner into the stratossphere. one gust of wind scrubbed the planned launch. >> we'll cancel the mission due to gusty weather. >> reporter: whenever they decide to launch they have to get it right. these balloons can only be used once an they only have bun balloon left. felix baumgartner plans to rise 23 miles per hour above earth and jump. his speed could reach mach 1. for the red bull team, a lot of

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one fifth of americans claim to have no religious affiliation, more people now believe in the power of five hour energy drink than even god. no one is exactly sure why this is happening but i have a theory. i think a lot of people stopped believing in god when they turned on the tv and saw honey boo-boo. >> might be some truth to that. >> absolutely right. >> all right. in today's health watch a breath test can diagnose disease. it may seem impossible but new hi-tech devices can check your breath and can tell you if you're seriously ill. >> no needles, no x-rays, no waiting for results. dr. peter mazzone of cleveland clinic's respiratory institute has been doing tests to see if you can detect lung cancer.

>> we have a lot of chemicals in it and it has an exhaust from our body. they produce these chemicals get carried through our blood through our lungs where they are breathed out. diseases cause different chemicals to be produced such as cancer cells. our goal is to distinguish those different chemicals in the breath, the exhaust system of our breath. >> if you have bad brett can it mean something? >> there are definite odors noticed through the years that could represent liver disease orchid any disease. >> why a breath test and not a blood toeft detect cancer? >> right now for lung cancer there are no extremely accurate blood tests on the market. so there's a lot of working done to develop non-invasive tests. >> how accurate is the breath test? >> the breath test that we've went borking on is in the 80% to

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on time will tell. there's a lot of excitement towards this form of testing. >> what's the like liuhood this can be used for other diseases as well. has testing been done? >> absolutely. it's a very high likelihood not just lung cancer but other cancers. my colleagues at the cleveland clinic are looking for kidney disease, liver disease, test of infectious diseases, transplant rejection. breath test is being developed in all of these areas. >> is it more likely to be more accurate than a blood test? >> it may target different questions. how the cells are working as opposed to change in our proteins or our genes or something of that nature. i think it's got -- it will have a niche and be more accurate within that niche for sure. >> how would you describe how long it will take to get the results. it is immediate or you have to wait a day or two is this >> we don't know.

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>> the "price is right" is the longest running game show in tv history. it's famous for the games, the prizes and the glamourous female models. >> now the producers are shaking up that formula and going co-ed. john blackstone is at the "price is right's" studios. john, come on down! >> reporter: yes. on this set for more than 40 years the "price is right" has been giving away fabulous prizes. but now they are giving away something they've never awarded before. the job of a male model on this show. now, that broadcast won't be on the air until monday but we were here on the set when it was recorded this week. >> have a hand for our first male model winner, rob wilson. >> reporter: rob wilson has broken a game show barrier. >> where are you from? >> originally from boston, massachusetts. >> reporter: history making debut was showing off some

shades. >> they together have designer his and her sunglasses. >> reporter: no iv years the beautiful women of the "price is right" have added glamour to the prizes. host drew carey said auth skill that should not be underestimated. >> there's more to this job than smiling and waving. >> for the models yeah. a lot more to it. you have to model the prizes correctly, be happy, make it took like you're the happiest person in the world. >> reporter: can a man do that? the auditions demanded more than muscle. >> react. someone just won a car. >> yes. >> losing my shirt? sure. take this. toss that over here. >> reporter: judges included the "price is right" executive prodoeser mike richards and the show's four female models.

>> they were all handsome but you have to have personality. you can't just be a handsome guy. >> here we are again. the real showcase. >> rporter: there's more to this job than smiling and waving. >> absolutely. it's a little overwhelming at first. >> you can be good looking but you have to lay. drew carey who stands there you have to play with him. >> when all of the rest were eliminated. >> congratulations guys you are the final seven. well done. >> reporter: the final choice was left to a vote of the viewers. >> now it's time to announce the winner. ready. congratulations, rob wilson. >> all of our top contenders had this certain quality, the x factor that you can put your finger on. and rob definitely has it. >> reporter: he skillfully handled a costume change and never hesitated to shed his shirt. designee just killed it right there. >> thank you so much. >> reporter: most daytime tv

viewers after all are women. >> some of the ladies are in the daytime. you know what i mean. >> are you worried in this job you won't be appreciated for your mind? >> not appreciated for my mind no because i think they've seen a lot of me. they've seen a lot of side of me. they know i can handle that and not be a complete goof with it. >> take a break before you say what the prize is. it's a new harley. >> reporter: he admitted to being nervous during rehearsal. >> the last thing or the prize, more energy. you want to be excited about what the prize is. >> reporter: he got some help from those with experience. and he had a last bit of practice before the studio audience arrived. >> it's all yours on the price is right. >> reporter: rob wilson was ready to become part of broadcasting history on the "price is right." and for now rob wilson is

scheduled for just five shows running next week. but the producers aren't ruling out extending that if there's a positive feedback. the good news for rob is that one of the shows current female models was discovered through a contest just like this one. >> first of all, we love your name tag. >> doesn't come off apparently. >> that's fantastic. also, john, we're concerned that this model is being objectified. >> she's concerned. >> i was worried about the same thing. i was afraid when they saw me on the set beside him they might change their mind. >> he's not the first male model. they had guests before haven't they? >> they have indeed. they had some stars of soap operas on here. some people associated to

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context of 20/20 hindsight, certainly the state department was being told there was a problem there. >> i think the right chant ought to be for them is four more weeks. >> this is a state that romney needs to win. he's spending four days here this week. >> governor romney wants to let wall street run wild again but bring down the hammer on "sesame street." >> romney has the momentum and i'm not sure big bird will stop him. >> that 85-foot jump across a utah canyon. the head cam shows how dangerous this stunt was. >> are you worried in this job you won't be appreciated for your mind? >> not appreciated for my mind? no because they've seen a lot of me. >> i can tell you what a burden that is. >> you're in charge of a lot of people for four years. >> think you made a mistake, eight years. >> mr. obama did something called using your imagination.

i'm norah o'donnell with gayle king and anthony mason. charlie rose is on assignment. governor mitt romney is trying to use his post-debate moment to make a push. this morning's poll shows 49% of likely voters favor romney. 47% support obama. jan crawford is in akron, ohio, covering the romney campaign. >> reporter: the race is really tightening here in ohio, a state that romney must-win. one poll has him up by one poipt, another poll has the president up by four. it's essentially a tie. what we're seeing here, especially yesterday the president is taking romney's point and turning it on him. romney goes on to talk about a lit any of issues facing america on the jobs and economy and also for today we have that big congressional hearing on libya.

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speaking of romney people close to the campaign are saying mitt romney's son tag is now one much his chief advisers. yeah. when mitt asked him to join his team he put his arm around his shoulder and he said tag, you're it. >> it's a clean joke you can tell your kids. i saw that one coming. we hear a lot about young people struggling with student debt while the price of college keeps rising. the price of attending college in texas has gone up 55% in the past ten years. >> a year ago rick perry challenged his state colleges to offer a degree that cost $10,000 or less. he's with us this morning. governor perry, good to see you.

>> good morning. >> there's a lot of people out there, young people are saying $10,000 would being a great. but what kind of a degree would that be? >> well, over the course over the years texas education has been well below the national average. we still are today but we want to keep it that way even with the increases we've had. so these $10,000 degrees as we laid them out is a great idea. at first people were very leery that it could not be done. over the course of the last year we had ten different institutions that have taken the challenge, as a matter of fact interdisciplinary courses are now being offered at angelo state. and i would suspect a full range of courses. obviously, the science, math and technology, those are going to be a little more intensive. but the putting in place a program where a young person knows that they can have the stability of getting a college

degree for $10,000 or less is going to be quite appetizing to most texans. >> attractive to a lot of people especially in the news we keep hearing college debt is outweighing credit card debt and you're proposing a four year freeze on tuition. how exactly would that work? >> well, a young person needs to have the stability of knowing what it's going to cost to go to college. this does two things if we freeze these tuitions for a four year period of time. number one it gives stability and predictability to the young person and/or their family. plus it also gives them an incentive to really be focused, to finish up in four years. one of the problems we got is that only 30% of our college students are graduating in a four year period of time. so way too much time, way too much cost, given some incentive, or excuse me this ability in a four year tuition period is one

of the ways to do that. after four years that tuition probably is going to go up so there's a good incentive for the student and we also give incentives to the universities to get those kids out in time by tying graduation rates to some of the money that the universities get. so both the university and the student has incentives to get in, get your studies done, get out and get in the workforce. >> affirmative action is back before the supreme court. do you support the university of texas's admission process that considers race based criteria? do you think that should continue yes or no? >> well, the university is putting forward this, but the supreme court is going to decide the constitutionality of it. the bigger issue for me is your going to have a diverse population in your universities and absolutely i think it's wise for us to do that. are you going to use race as the factor to make that happen when

we talk about, is that going to be the sole determining factor of how you're going to populate. again the court will decide that. but all these schools need to be really focused on getting the best and brightest. in texas over the last five years we've seen increases of over 60% in our hispanic population, over 40% in our african-american population taking the s.a.t. so we're having a bigger population, if you will, available to go to these colleges and that's good news. >> governor we want to talk about politics because you've debated against mitt romney. so with that in mind what do you think he does well and what do you think he needs to do to prepare for debate number two? >> well, mitt has been practicing debate now for better than a year and he's obviously quite talented at it and a very good debater as we saw last week. so, i suspect that this is kind of like playing for the super bowl, you already know how to

perform, your conditioning is good and he's going to perform as a high level. he has all the facts and he's ready to go. >> governor, mitt romney said yesterday that anti-abortion legislation would not be part of his jepd as president. is that disappointing to you? >> i think the supreme court is where that issue will be decided from the standpoint of how america is going to be impacted by -- we have a supreme court decision and so that's where, you know, i suspect that all of the focus will be -- >> governor perry, i'm sorry -- >> i'm sure very clearly he'll put people constitutionalists on the supreme court. >> we'll be back with love and theft right after the break. i love my extrabucks rewards, and right now, they're doubling! so, when i shop --

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theft. >> wish you could see gayle singing along. it's their first hit. eric gunderson and stephen barker are love and theft. >> you had two labels close on you and your band quit. >> we freaked out a little bit but it turned out to be a good thing. we're happy to still be going. >> quit the same day you signed the deal. they get the deal and then the band quits. >> said sorry i'm going rock and roll. >> yeah. exactly. >> you got a number one song. >> yes, sir. >> it goes to show you everything happens for at that reason. with this latest album love and theft you said unfortunately a lot of people -- you had an album in 2009. this isn't your first time. you feel a lot of people are

hearing you for the first time. what do you want us to know. i heard you for the first time two days ago. if i had more time i would know all the songs. >> eric is a great dancer. that's what i want everyone to know. >> how about your sound? what about your sound? >> well, we're very passionate about harmonies and we always wanted to make sure that we stayed like a real duo. we both sing leads. we were very passionate. we go back and forth on the whole album. and our producers did "old alabama," "restless heart." he kind of helped us hone our sound and figure out what we wanted to be. >> now, your single angel eyes is about a preacher's daughter who has a naughty side. you guys are both pastor's sons. so you know all about this. >> it is true. >> are your speaking from

personal experience? >> yes. like my sister. >> oh, your sister. >> i'm blaming it on her because i'm not a daughter. we're going to blame i want all on her. she's a little crazy. she's cool too. she's all right. >> growing up in the church is kind of crazy. preacher's kids seem to have the craziest side to them. they get a little -- i was nuts at times. >> they always say there's a wild side and we were looking at your wedding picture eric. when did you get married? >> two years ago. >> is she nice. do we like her? >> she's wonderful. >> what's her name? >> emily. >> because she knows the two of you are very close. they say there's a bromance going. is it hard for emily? >> we spend every day together and we have one day off a week. yeah, we're very close.

we're best friends and it's a lot of fun and she's very understanding and she puts up with it very well. >> we encourage each other. >> talk about mayhem, because when taylor swift writes song about someone, i'm looking at you stephen, you know the song. so when taylor swift writes a song -- we got it. ♪ >> i can't see you. >> did you know this song was about you? >> she called me and said hey, she's like, dude, i wrote a song about you. i was like, in my mind oh, my goodness, her track record is not positive. what did i do? i can't remember doing anything negative. >> very positive. >> it's a nice song. it was very flattering to me. that's like the bar. you dated me and wrote a nice

strong about me. >> you are still pals today? >> she's cool. >> you've been nominated for two cma awards this year. >> first time ever. >> when you think about that, as little kids was this something you dreamed of? >> oh, my gosh, most definitely. >> when we grew up we watched award shows with famous singers that we look up to. kind of cool to just be nominated and, you know, the duo category and new artist category and incredibly flattering. we're really excited and we love going to award shows spoi. so it will be fun. >> to get dressed up real fancy. >> you're not wearing that? >> i wish i could wear this. >> anthony was saying you could have dressed for us today. >> oh, my goodness. i have a tie by the way. >> thank you very much. >> willing to lend to it. nice to see you guys, really.

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we don't have a whole lot of song to feature the cow bell. >> got to have my cow bell. >> i'll be doing myself a disservice and every member of my band. >> guess what? i got a fever. and the only prescription is

more cow bells. awesome. christopher walken is one of "saturday night live's" favorite moments. he first appeared on tv in 1953 and been in more than 100 movies from "deer hunter" to "wedding crashers." >> his new movie called "seven psychopaths." he plays guess what a rather odd dude. >> put your hands up. >> no. >> what? >> i said no. >> why not? >> i don't want to. >> but i got a gun. >> i don't care. >> doesn't make any sense. >> too bad. >> christopher walken joins us at the table. hello, christopher walken. >> hello. >> i have to say i watched it last night late, and i went to bed. that was the last thing on my mind and i'm thinking we have to make sure people have to know

it's a comedy because people's throats get slashed, heads get blown up. i keep thinking this is a comedy. don't you think people need to know that by going in? >> yeah. but you saw it by yourself. it's very interesting because the first time i saw it also, i was by myself. i know what you mean. >> you do know what i mean. i'm watching, oh, my gosh. >> when there's people around, it's a whole different thing. >> it draws laughs. >> it's interesting because my son is 25 and he saw the trailers. he goes it looks hilarious, i can't wait to see it. >> the first time i saw it with an audience was a midnight showing in toronto and there were a lot of young people and like an audience for "rocky horror show." and it was real. a lot of fun. >> you played some pretty whacky characters in your

career. you seem to gravitate towards them. i hear you're a pretty conservative guy. >> yeah. i've been married almost 50 years. >> to the same person? >> yes. and i have a nice house. my cat loves me. >> what's your cat's name? >> flap jack. >> flap jack. really? flap jack. okay. >> why do you think you get drawn to these certain characters or casted as these characters. >> movies are so expensive to make that if you do something, and in my early time in the movies had to do with annie hall and "the deer hunter" and both times i was troubled and suicidal and i think that movies are so expensive that if you do something that works a little bit, you know, whether you're the leading man or best friend or the funny guy or the villain, that you might get asked to do

that again. and i think that actors who work are lucky. >> do you ever worry, though, that people will think you're kuckoo for cocoa puffs? >> it doesn't happen. i live in new york and people say hi chris and i think they understand. for a long time i looked a lot younger than i was and as i get older i'm starting to play uncles and dads and grandfathers. >> you like that? >> yes. it's a whole new territory. >> as a kid you train as a dancer. >> i was. yes. >> i read that you said you actually still think like a dancer. >> well, i do. >> what does that mean? >> well it has to do with rhythm more than logic, i guess. dancers, you know, they have a saying -- that you think in

beats. you think in rhythm. and i do too. when i study a script it has to be whether it sounds right more than whether it makes sense. >> i heard you got in acting by accident. >> i did. i was a dancer. somebody said why don't you audition for this play. i did. i got the job. then i started getting, you know, plays. then i got a movie. very much by accident. yes. >> okay. we're glad. >> in this current movie called "seven psychopaths," there's kidnapping dogs for reward money but you bonded with one of dogs. explain that story. you sound like a cat lover. >> i am, but this dog bonnie, little dog, almost like a cat, but the best dog. they say that working with

animals difficult. when you work with animals usually they have two or three because they get tired and you have to replace them. there was only one and she was just an angel. you know. i would put her here and then we would play the scene and she never disturbed anything. a great dog. >> when the movie was over did you want to take her home in >> i did. >> you did. >> she loves her mother. >> we have to ask you about natalie wood. they re-opened the case. you were there that night. what do you think happened, christopher? >> you know, i stopped talking about that 30 years ago, and there's so much information, books and -- >> okay. >> internet. and, you know, everything. anything you want to know go look. >> i thought while you were here. you knew that was coming didn't you? you knew that question. >> i want comes a lot. >> but can we end on this? we saw the video of "fat boy." would you do a little move?

your up for it? >> that's another thing. they say tap dance. if i go dance for your will you toss coins. >> i would if you would actually dance. >> i'm not going dance today, thank you. >> but you appreciate the invitation. >> do i. >> i wish you success with stein psy -- "seven psychopaths." now that i know it's a comedy i look at it differently. now when you go you know you're supposed to be laughing. >> christopher walken, thank you for joining us. "seven psychopaths" opens in theaters on friday. nancy o'dell is here. et host and producer, crap book fan wants to help you preserve your memories and what the cast of "cheers" told her. that's next on cbs "this morning".

nancy o'dell is the host of "entertainment tonight." all this week she's reporting on the 30th anniversary reunion of "cheers" when she's not interviewing celebrities or working with charities she's busy making -- a surprise about you. >> hear you're a scrapbook fanatic. >> not true. >> i'll make you one today. >> i have boxes of pictures that's sitting in boxes. my sisters have boxes, i'm embarrassed because there's no books together. so you have to give me lessons later. let's talk about the reunion of

"cheers." we ran your piece yesterday. >> it was so much fun. it was a blast. it was like being a part of the show. that's what it felt like. seeing them all together for the first time in 30 years. "entertainment tonight" had the exclusive. it was great to see them together. they didn't look 30 years older. as ted danson said, it felt comfortable and oddly weird at the same time. >> shelly long. i was looking at clips where is shelly long. >> she came a little bit late. it worked out well for the interview. why? because we grabbed her and ted danson together and talked to them and found some interesting news because i said to her, i said, you didn't stay for the entire season. after she made the decision to leave is that they would have given them the opportunity to actually get married on the show. their characters. >> would that have made a

difference. >> that would have made a difference. because she wanted them to get married and she wanted to take that extra step in the show. and so she possibly would have stayed on and then it would have been -- who expos. >> you got the chance to interview ann romney and michelle obama this summer. what struck you about both of them? >> obviously, such strong women. the fun part about them coming on the show. i interviewed michelle with the president. you can see the personal side of them. we can ask them fun type of questions. >> i didn't see them do "entertainment tonight." >> the obama. >> was this the first for the romney? >> ann romney did it and president obama and michelle did it. it was fun to be able to ask them different things. one thing in noticed is that, you know, watching them during the whole interview they were holding hands. i thought that was nice. cameras were rolling.

not because they are in an election campaign but to be able to talk about, he tries to be a normal dad and have dinner at 6:30 every single night and tries to be there when he can. it's more difficult now. >> are you saying there's pda? >> yes, there was. it was nice to see. >> i think so. >> human beings. >> exactly. >> i'm fascinated. are you a scrapbooker, anthony? >> actually i used to make scrapbooks for the grandparents in the family. >> really? >> a lot of work. and i would start in september and now i do photo books because you can do it digitally. i'm curious where we're going with this here. that was torture. >> well, i partnered with this wonderful company. you know this. i've been doing this for oh, my gosh ever since i was a teeny

little girl and my mom made like 50 scrap books that i have now. it's very important for your kids. it makes them feel important. actually speaking of michelle obama i put one of the pictures in here because this book is -- here it is. with all the things in life that matters. you're supposed to collect them in this book. so your relationships, your aspirations, feeling good, house to home. so it's like kind of pinterest. everybody is so popular. you don't have to do it virtual. you can take some things and pin it in here. it may be a recommendation for wine from your girlfriend. or ideas you want to do. >> even though everything is digital people are still taking time to take pictures. scrapbooking is a huge business. >> it is. i do it with -- crazy digitally too. this is an example. michelle obama because she said as a working mom i have the

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